Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Bold Artist Podcast, where we talk about being brave and finding creative freedom. You want to get those beautiful things inside of your head out onto canvas? We're going to talk to real life artists and learn the skills and the courage it takes to do just that. I'm your host, Marijanel, a multi-form artist and creativity mentor, joined often by my co-host, Charla, Marschalk, painter of colorful portraits and founder of Bold School -- an online space to learn bold color painting. Welcome, and let's get started with today's episode.
New Speaker (00:38):
Welcome everyone to the Bold Artist Podcast pilot. This is the show where Charla Marschalk and I are here to tell you what the Bold Artist Podcast is all about. And actually, we're still figuring it out, which is part of the fun of launching this thing. Isn't it, Charla?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yes. Definitely, it is. It Actually is the most fun is figuring it out.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
We're in like the creative part of launching the podcast, that part behind the scenes, where we're getting to infuse all of our creativity, the ideas, the hopes, dreams. And, it's just all coming to life, and we're so excited to launch and have it be a weekly YouTube show and a show on all the podcast apps for artists to listen to, to be inspired. Tell us a little, Charla, of your heart, of how you want to inspire artists through the bold artist podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I think my initial dream is probably why I started Bold School, probably why I started painting. I think that everybody, um, everybody's creative and there's a lot of visual artists out there who don't believe that their, um, their gift, I guess we could say is important or that their work that they're creating is important. And, I think the base foundation of the message that I want to put out into the world is that it is important, and it's worth working on, is worth talking about. So, this podcast is really about encouraging and inspiring artists to believe in what they do, to believe that it's important to understand that they're given this gift because they have a story to tell and a message to put out into the world. And that there's people out there who need to hear it because of where their life is in this moment.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
If, for instance, this story I like to tell is that we've all experienced pain and suffering to some degree, it could be small, it could be huge. Um, you've experienced pain, And it's quite possible that you've experienced triumph over that pain. And therefore, you have a story to tell in a way that you can help other people who have gone through that same kind of suffering. That's I think one of the best ways to explain what I mean by you have a message to share with the world and why art can be powerful, because you have experienced something and you paint that experience. And then when somebody comes in, they see it and they resonate with it. It touches their soul and, uh, they can be changed by it in a good and a bad way. It can be negative. It can be scary, as well, and it can be a sad experience. Um, but I do believe that art is important, that good art is important. We need to share it. We need to encourage each other and inspire each other on how to do that, how to be brave and do that. So, I think that's the foundation of why I wanted to start a podcast with, or through Bold School.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
And one of the things that I've absolutely loved about being the host of this podcast is the opportunity to give artists a voice. And those that are listening, get to receive that voice, and grow from it, and be encouraged and inspired by it, as you shared about how, like it's so important for artists to be telling their stories. But, I have just loved giving artists the opportunity to share their voice because a lot of, most of these artists are visual artists. And so they share their voice in visual form, and this podcast allows their actual audio and, you know, physical form on YouTube to be given a voice, which I'm just so honored to be part of it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, it's true. Actually, I don't know if I've really thought about it, even though we're playing with the tagline Audio for Your Visual, because artists, um, me, myself, you've probably seen it already. I struggled with using the right words at times, because I express visually, but artists have a lot to say and often don't really get an opportunity to say it. And I think one of the greatest inspirations is knowing their story. Like how did they become an artist and what did they overcome to become an artist? What risks did they take? Living the visual artist's life -- and every art form I think -- is, um, a very brave path to take because it's not easy, and it's not understood. And I think that everyone's journey is so different. So, giving a voice to artists will, I think, encourage each other and let us know that we're not alone in our journey. Might sound really cheesy, but it's true. It's very true. We are locked in our studios, working tirelessly and endlessly by ourselves. And most of us love it. Most of us are introverts, and we don't mind being alone in our studios, but it can play with our minds. And we think that we are completely alone. So, I think that giving the artists a voice and sharing with each other is will create a community and a tribe. I think that will allow us to understand ourselves more or journey more, I guess,
Speaker 1 (05:54):
For sure. And you know, one thing that I found as a, a podcast host and because I'm considered a super listener, which means I listened to a lot of podcasts, I consume a lot of podcasts, I know that there's a lot of art-based podcast and other shows out there. But I feel like what's making the Bold Artists Podcast so unique is we do have a really strong emphasis on the boldness and the bravery and really building confidence. And I think that part, it's something that for me, as an artist and creative individual, I needed. I needed that voice to come along and build up my confidence. I needed it so long ago. And now is the time that we get to do that, that we get to build the confidence into people, by drawing out artists' stories. Uh, over the last, this last couple of weeks, we've already interviewed about eight different artists because we're building up the episodes already behind the scenes, though
Speaker 1 (06:55):
they're not released yet. And I've gotten to ask a lot of the questions, like what makes you bold? What makes you brave? What are your uses of bold color and bold brushstrokes? And hearing the artists share and explain the bravery that sometimes it takes a big movement, like a big, scary risk. And other times they've described these small little steps that built and built and built and built into confidence. And I'm amazed, Charla, absolutely amazed already. And we've barely even begun. We haven't even launched yet. And I'm already amazed.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
That's awesome. I haven't even listened to all of these yet, just parts of them.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I know you have myself, you have a whole bunch of listening to do so that we can, you know, edit and launch. So, it's, it's exciting to finally reveal what we've had up our sleeve, which actually started with you and I getting together for coffee late July, I guess, July 2021.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
And, uh, so, you know, we got together for coffee and crazy things happen.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
All the time. Every time we're together crazy things happen.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah. So, um, so that was, I think the seed of it where we hadn't seen each other for a long time, we'd go out for coffee and start to catch up on what's happening with you and Bold School, and what was happening with me and my life, and my sort of podcasting world. And you had this moment come over you where you like had goosebumps, and you were like, "Do you want to start a podcast?" And I was like, "Yeah." And you were like, "Let's do it tomorrow." Like no hesitation.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And then I got sick with COVID, and you're like, "Where are you?"
Speaker 1 (08:43):
And then, right, well, you got sick with COVID after we had like made everything firm, we were like doing this thing. It was set in motion. And then suddenly Charla is like, "I'm getting a COVID test." And then she gets very ill and drops off the planet for several weeks. And I say, "I feel like I just took off in a jet where the pilot -- I'm the co-pilot, and I don't -- and my pilot's like, on the ground, and I don't know where I'm going. So, I like just flew the plane for a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So you're interviewing eight artists. []
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, eight artists. I'm like, I hope I'm asking the right questions. Um, but yeah, no, it's gone so well. And it's actually morphed and, and maybe you want to share a little of how it's morphed because we, we started just thinking audio only and weekly only, and then just like creative people, keep having things grow and grow and evolve. We are now, we've taken a slightly different shape. Do you want to share about that, Charla?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, so, um, I mean, when we met for coffee, I had obviously was not thinking I was going to ask you to do a podcast with me. Wasn't on my mind. We're just going to catch up because it had been a long time and lots had happened in our lives. So, I had, um, the platform that we use for Bold School had released a new product for podcasting and specifically. So, I had been thinking through how I was going to develop a podcast. I'd wanted to do it for a while. I wasn't really loving the idea of hosting it myself, but what else was I going to do? I'm like, I'll go host it myself. I got lots to say. I suppose. I hope. And so I had made those plans. I had written it all out and made the plan, and it was sitting there having coffee, and you're like, so I started a podcast -- and yeah, I got goosebumps. I knew in that moment, God is putting us together. And that this had to happen. It was like shadow. No, there was no shadow of doubt. Is that the right line?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yep, that's the line. There's no shadow of a doubt.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Um, I knew right from that second. And I think that's how I've done everything so far in my career. I just knew in that moment that that was the right thing. And, um, I was like, so excited. And we've talked about, I think in essence, working together for quite a while, I kind of always knew we would. So, I'm excited that we're finally getting started working together. So, that's more just my personal take on that. So, yeah, we hadn't thought any much past audio. Um, but then all of a sudden I was visualizing us right here, even though I like to make lots of funny faces and fidget a lot on video, and you can't edit it out like I do with all my other stuff. Um, but I also started thinking that a lot of our students come to us, uh, via YouTube. We are found on YouTube, and we have a good YouTube subscription right now and lots of views and yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
We love you YouTube.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah. YouTube's awesome. And all our subscribers are awesome. So, I thought we need to give them something, as well. And we are visual people. So for me, I like to watch when I have the opportunity, I like to be able to watch and listen. I also like to just listen at times too, but I like the option. So, it kind of just evolved. Like you said, we're creative, and it's going to keep evolving. So, we've also had the idea of doing a regular podcast, like we know podcasts to be. And then I give credit to the great Mary Janell for the idea of our daily radio show that we're still, um, creating right now and making it ready for launch. And it will most likely be available inside of Bold School. It won't be a public option, but we are creating a daily radio show, which is technically a podcast, as well. So we're working on that idea. So, lots of exciting things and who knows by the time we launched where it's actually going to be, what it's going to look like. But, um, this being the pilot episode, you get to watch this and then watch us evolve. That's the cool thing is that it grows together. We all grow together, right? We're all online. I'm just allowing you to see what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
So at the moment, what we're doing is a weekly artist interview that we'll broadcast both on YouTube and on all available podcast apps, like publicly for free. And it'll be highlighting that artist asking them, uh, key questions. So in Season One, um, which will take us to about January, we're talking about bold color and bold moves. A lot of the artists are portrait painters in bold color. Not all of the artists though. So there's, there's some variety and surprises. Yes. Um, but a lot of it is, um, in the same vein that that Bold School already offers. Um, because we have such a following in Bold School. And if you're not familiar already with Bold School, do go to boldschool.com, and find out what Charla's got going on on the inside, because you can learn all bold color painting inside of Bold School. And so a lot of our artists are ones, like, several of them mentor with inside of Bold School.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And then, uh, some have been students and others are just ones we really admire and wanted to showcase. So, uh, we we are starting with the YouTube and the, um, on the podcast apps, but then the daily radio show is something we're cooking up for the inside of the Bold School community, which will be, um, where we kind of, even though it'll be having a short daily segments, we'll also have the chance to dive deeper into like what the Bold School community is asking for and wanting, and like the heartbeat of the news and what's really relevant. And so it's a way to really immerse yourself into that community. And we can kind of grow together, like with the same, everybody on the same page.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah. And one thing in Bold School, it's almost a motto, I think, is that we don't hold back on our secrets. We tell all. Like I see no reason why I should ever hold my secret sauce hostage so that nobody else can know what, what or why I'm doing something. And the radio show is a way to expand on that because when I teach a class or workshop of any kind or even a live session, you know, it's impossible to get everything out at once. And a class takes a long time to create and publish. Whereas the daily radio show, we can talk about all the relevant items, the things that are happening inside our community, like, you know, that week. And the questions being asked will be, it's kind of just a place where everything will be told. And there'll be lots of, I think, great tips and things to glean from those conversations. We won't hold anything back, right? Say that on the daily show.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
That is one of the things that I really appreciated admire about my co-host here, Charla Marschalk and founder of Bold School. Charla and I go way back, and that's something that I think people first tuning into the podcast, aren't going to realize. Uh, but Charla and I go way back. And I knew Charla, Charla, you were already a painter when I met you. You were already painting bold, bold, the color portraits, but you hadn't yet started teaching in the fashion that you do, and you were still in a transition. Actually. I met you when your art was being showcased in our, at the time we lived in a mutual city. So, um, we both lived in Kelowna, and you were being showcased in the Kelowna opera. Is that correct? My calling it the right.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah. Upper Kelowna. Yeah, I was their resident artist like three years. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yes. And that's when I first around the time that I first met you, and then we had the chance to travel together to Art Vancouver, and I assisted setting up your show there. And, um, I think that's where we really bonded on a lot of like art, just similar, like similar vision. And I think that that's one thing I would really want to, like, I could ask you a zillion questions about yourself, but I feel like I want to tell people that Charla is the real deal. Charla is not only amazing at painting and the portraits that you see. Like, she's not only, like, beyond talented, but her vision goes way beyond herself. It goes way beyond just wanting to be known as an artist or good at art. It goes way beyond to something that's beyond, like out of this world, I would call it like Kingdom minded.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Charla really cares that every single thing she does, including Bold School, is making lasting, really long lasting impressions. Not just in people's skill levels, but in, like, heart matters in things that are going to world change. And one of the things that I've loved about being friends with Charla is that every time we get together or talk, it's not just, well, it is a little bit about what's going on in our own little world, not going to lie, but it always goes bigger than that. It goes to what is happening. That's going to make impact beyond our own life, beyond my lifetime, her lifetime. And, and I guess I hope I've explained it in a way that, that would just show the bigness of this amazing woman I'm working with and hosting a podcast for and with. That, I'm honored to be here, but I also believe in her message and call that is much, much more than painting portraits.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Wow. That's pretty amazing. I'll take all those words. That's awesome. I, and same goes for me and why I'm so excited to have you here and be at last, actually working together. I remember meeting Mary Jenelle. I know I didn't meet you. Um, I went to an artist talk that was being held in downtown Kelowna, and you were the artist. It was the first time I, I just moved to Colona, didn't know anybody.
New Speaker (19:07):
Which one was that?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
It was at, um, the Streaming Cafe with, and, and I think, uh, Graham Ord was there doing music with you of some kind .
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Okay, the Streaming Cafe doesn't exist in Kelowna anymore, but it was a wonderful place where you meet a lot of amazing people.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah. And I had just moved to Kelowna and just decided to paint for a living. So, I was terrified, but I'm like, I am starting this new journey. I need to figure this out. And I need to go to every event I can go. And I think it was like, uh, something to do with that group called tribe house or something. I don't even know. I was never a part of that.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Which doesn't exist either, anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
But I saw you there and you were just talking to a group of people. And I met this really weird guy. He was like sitting at the table with me having coffee. I'm like, you're weird. I don't want to be like you, you're one of those weird artists.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Well, one of the things about Charla and I, is we do seem to gravitate to that, that type of thing when we're out in public, because when we were having coffee in July, when we, when the whole spark of the podcast happened, a woman actually pulled up to our table, like sat there with us for a while. And Charla and I were like, this is akward. What do we do? That just kind of happens to us. Um, but anyway, was I talking about at this artist's talk?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
So, you were giving this talk, and I don't fully remember what it was, but what I remember you talking about was your pottery. 'Cuz Marijanel is an incredible potter. And you were talking about your pottery, and you sang a song that you wrote. I think it's available on YouTube somewhere. I think we could find it.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And then if Graham, if Graham was there, he probably played guitar.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Yeah, so you probably played the song, and you just told your story and told what it meant to you being a potter, and what that meant in your faith, and how you understood the creator so much more through your pottery. I'm not going to give any of that justice, but it was so inspiring. And I was still getting on, I was still starting the journey is I'm going to do art. I'm going to, I finally realized that this is what I'm going to do, and I'm going to take it on. And it's a huge risk, but I was still terrified. I didn't know what it meant. And you spoke into that. I think you spoke into me about that very thing that night, because of how you spoke about the metaphor of pottery and how it, it made you understand your faith more for, I'm not going to try and pretend that I know what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
It was inspiring, really inspiring. And I was like, who is this girl? And then, um, we had mutual friends, and I think we started, we had like that artists get together at Jessica Balfour's studio downtown. And I think we probably really met for the first time and talked there. And I just love, I think, um, more so than painting, I love the meaning behind the things that we create. You know, like, I love watching a movie, and it's entertaining, and it's beautiful. And you know, the lighting is great, but what is the meaning? What is the message? There's always a message behind, uh, oops, sorry. Um, there's always a message behind everything that's created. Maybe some of those like action packed movies that my kids watch might not have story yet. I don't know that stories are meetings, but you know, most art has a meaning.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And so I love those types of discussion more than I love talking about the color red that I'm using. I like to talk about why I'm using red, what it's meaning or, or what, what, what part of the message it is. And that's what our discussions always had. And then I remember years later and I may be rambling a bit now, but I'm going through my timeline in my head. Years later, where we had discussed, like, what are we going to do? We need to like, talk about this. We need to get this out into the world. We need to gather together...
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Was this the time we drove together over the Coquihalla?
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Probably.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah. At night. And we had big deep talks. And you told me all your crazy stories about your art world, life, life in general,
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Which I do have crazy stories, and that is basically what my other personal podcast is about, is just the crazy...
Speaker 2 (23:13):
You have to go listen to the Marijanel's memoirs.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
It's not released yet. Not released yet. But it's, it's also in the works. So, um, anyway, so we were driving and going to these deep levels.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, and talking about like, what can we do? Like, how can we encourage other people in the same vision that we had? And, and then it led to you recording yourself, talking about a character in the Bible called Bezalel I believe. And I knew nothing about this guy, but he is apparently a multi-form artist.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
I can't believe you remember my Bezalel..
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah. And you sent me these recordings. And I'm like, this lady was born to preach. And it was so inspiring.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Just saying that some of my, like where the roots grow of me, what I'm going to call podcastingm is my dad says, I sat on the stairs that we lived in a little townhouse growing up, and I would sit on the stairs with a little tape recorder and I would push the record and preach at the record. And I would preach everything I learned and, you know, Sunday school or daycare or whatever, I would just like talk to the recorder. And I still have some of those tapes or daily logs. And so I was made to do this. I was made to do this, but with that in mind, I know you had something to finish there, Charla, I felt like you're not quite done, but I want to tell everyone while I was saying I was born to do this, uh, podcast hosting, speaking, Charla met me while I was speaking.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
There was a number of years of my life that I felt my voice was silenced. And that came through exactly all the same obstacles, hurdles, difficulties that I feel like most artists deal with. And one of the reasons I feel like now --interviewing artists and talking, hearing them share their stories -- I feel like I so identify to, to their stories. It might be different paths, different circumstances, but there was, when you're made to do something, there will be resistance, and there will be the squashing or like that, um, that dampening of the light, you know, or that trying to squash out the let your little light shine thing. I don't know if I'm making sense now, but, um, but with that ramble, um, I'm saying there was many years where I felt that my voice was dampened within me and that now stepping back into doing what I was made to do, it's not always easy, but it's that you're meant to do it. You're called to do it. And it's people like Charla and even people who, with stories like myself of overcoming those things that are going to help to mentor and bring artists to places of freedom, and new life, and new inspiration. Anyway, you can, you may continue your story.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
I love that. I'm so inspiring. And it's, it's neat because you can sort of see that evolution of where you were as this little girl who I was seeing you being, and now being a podcast host, like, where are you going to be in 10 years is you just don't know that journey. And other people can put on you what you're going to be. So, somebody might've seen you preaching on the stairs and say, you've got to go into the church and do something. You know, they'll put you in a box, but we need to be able to allow our own story to be created. And that artists, I think many artists will probably be able to say that they felt their voices were silenced. You know, as artists we're told that it's not a worthwhile thing, you're not going to make money. What's it matter?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
What's it, what's it going to do for the world? You're not paving new roads so that people can drive to a new cities. You know, they don't look at it as practical. So, um, I love that story. I think so many people will resonate and that's one of the amazing reasons you're here. I think that you were made to be here for this time. Um, so, well, all I was gonna say basically was that when you sent me this recording of you talking about Bezalel, and I have no idea why you sent it to me, or why that was about.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Me either.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
There was like two or three, like 20 minute things. And I listened to, and I'm like, I learned so much, I was so inspired. And I remember thinking like, this girl's voice is amazingly. She's so nice to listen to. And you're so eloquent in speech and all of those types of things.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And I don't know why, why I was thinking all that. There wasn't anything in my life, but I had all those thoughts and that day, having coffee in July when the podcast came on and all of these light bulbs started going off, that recording that you sent me that day came into my mind. And I was like, yeah, she has such a beautiful voice, so many deep thoughts, and you have such empathy for all artists of all kinds of all mediums. And I think you have some kind of a gift to understand and to see into all those worlds. Whereas I think that I see in a very specific space, and I move around a little bit. And I understand and appreciate art at different levels in different mediums. But I do have a very focused space, and I teach in that space and I paint in that space, but something I absolutely love about you is your ability to understand all artists of all levels of all mediums, and be able to draw things out of them and see deep things in them, see their worth and you know, all that stuff. So that's what came together that day. And I was like, do you want to do a podcast? It's gonna be so much fun.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
And I said, yes, absolutely. And I came home and told my husband, and he's like, you were made to do this. And Charla's really smart cause she knows you were made to do this. So, I was like, here I am. And it hasn't been without its technical difficulties. We've definitely run into some techie issues, and I've appreciated even a Charla's grace and humor and ability. Like we've just, we've made it through the techie bumps of launching pretty smoothly. We've done pretty good there. And um, and yeah, I thank you for, for your, um, recognition and appreciating those things about my multiform artistry, Charla, I do refer to myself as a multiform artist and a creativity mentor. That's kind of how I sum it up for people, but there really isn't any way to describe, um, all the, I guess I call them branches of my artistic expressions over the years because I was born creative.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I call myself a highly creative individual, not just like there's a lot who go through life, being creative and crafty and artsy, but Marijanel has functioned on like a very high maintenance, creative level, um, having to create every day. And so I lived my twenties and sort of the music I'm singing, songwriting, recording world. And that is where I got like a lot of my start, even in what I call my broadcasting experience, doing voiceovers and recording, which is now so useful in starting to podcast. It's also where I learned all the software and the, um, the ability to edit and understand basic audio editing, um, was through all those recording studio years, which the studio years, um, the music years, I call them kind of morphed into a photography decade. I had a portrait photography, which is also something, uh, uh, a portrait photography business.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And it's something that you and I immediately clicked on that level, because you did as well. So, we understand the pains of giving up our summers for weddings and the, just all that comes with that whole photo business. But the, um, the 10 years I spent in the photo business, I really believe is what formed me as a visual artist and that visual, um, those visual artists years then gave way to, I started to hobby and clay on the side, just more of a creative relief. Um, didn't really mean to become known as a potter and it happened -- and that happened at the time when I lived in Kelowna near you, um, through all those mutual circles that we were, we were sharing a few minutes ago -- and I just, it just kinda took off and happened for me. And when, um, my clay work began to become recognized, I was like, well, hey, if people want to know me as a potter and not a photographer, well, I guess that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
And so I embraced it and went with that for about seven years. There was an overlap of time where I was kind of known as both photographer and potter. Um, although my pottery ended up being more sculpting, I'm not sure if we want defined descriptions, but it ended up going into the sculpting realm. And then, um, I really was faced with a decision of, um, needing to close down the big kilns. And I had a, an amazing workshop. And for practical reasons, we were going to sell that property and just kind of came to the decision that I needed to shut the big grand uh studio down. And it was a sacrifice, but it was also a welcome sacrifice because I thought, well, I'm going to give this up. And something new is going to come, because when we close one door, another will open.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
When we say no to one thing, we make room for a yes, if that makes sense. And I didn't know what that would be, but I had a hunch, it was painting. But I also didn't know that through taking that step, my voice would come back. And I say that metaphorically, that voice that I mentioned, kind of got squashed all those years. I feel like the visual arts have been a reprieve for my voice, a way that I was just still able to express, even though I had no words I could articulate anymore. That I, like, like, how I did in my twenties when I was prolific with songwriting, singing, speaking on all of these things. There had been some wounds and some things like you talked about everyone going through different pains, and then needing to heal and how we're giving artists voices. Um, that all happened to me through the, the course of all of these different mediums.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
And I look back and it's not about the medium necessarily that I practiced. It was all leading to just understanding freedom of expression, freedom of using our voice, uh, freedom of creativity being who were made to be, being brave, being courageous, all the things that the bold artist podcast is talking and going to be talking about. Um, it's pretty, pretty full circle for me to come back to this point where a lot of what I've been through is starting to make sense. And I know that, you know, I just shared bits of my story, but I know Charla, you have been through a lot, uh, in, in your realm of art. You said you create in a certain space, but in your space you have experienced big and very powerful, amazing things have happened within your space in Bold School. And then also not without its trials and difficulties that you are seeing, um, transformation and, and restoration and all these amazing things happen as well. So it's, it's a pretty special times.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah. Definitely. And see that story that you just told. I think that's why you're going to make such an incredible podcast host -- so much experience behind you. And you're still so young.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Oh, I look, might look young here, you know, in front of the ring light. And, um, but yeah, when I wake up in the morning, I know I'm in my forties.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah. But I mean, looking at that experience, and all that you've learned, and all the wisdom, because I know you've processed those things, being able to talk to other artists that's, I think why you're so good at it. And, um, I think what is going to make everything here so special because you're not just a TV personality or whatever you've, this is who you are. This this message is you've got a voice, you're an artist you've been through the ringer on things, and you've seen success on things. And I think this was going to make you such an incredible host.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
And it's, it's very special for me to join into the space. We were talking about this, the space that you have started called Bold School, and Charla, and to join forces with you has been pretty cool. So, um, now that we've shared all this, I don't know if, um, we'll be releasing this in a couple of different segments, or if this will all be released as one big story. Um, that's the creative part that Charlotte, I get to talk about behind the scenes. Um, but what's really, I guess what we come back to is that this new venture, um, this new part of Bold School, which is the Bold Artist's Podcast, is created by two artists who desire for artists to live their fullest, most inspired, most encouraged life possible. We really want to see, um, you whole and fully functioning, how you were made to function as an artist.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
And in, in that desire, as we interview and bring others into the spotlight to share their story, it's because we believe in artists, and that we, we believe that you were made to be who you are. And, um, and I think that's something that I just love, love, love about Charla is that deep belief I was telling you about earlier, that she believes in so much more that than just herself. It goes way beyond. And, and that's why I'm here, because I'm very, very excited about that vision, and the vision behind Bold School, and the way it's changing lives.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
And it's going to be fun. Yeah. We're going to, you're going to get to meet and talk to so many different people. I think it's going to be amazing. And I get to listen.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
She gets to listen and say enh. Edit that.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Cut that out,
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Cut that out. Edit that.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Well, I kind of just liked what you said. You said like the, the whole part of the artist or whatever. Funny, not really funny story. You might not think it's funny, but, um, I, uh, I think it's funny. You might think I'm lame, but I homeschooled for a few years, and I loved this book that I read called The Whole Hearted Child, and how they describe -- why I love homeschooling was not just because you don't just bring your kid out of school and teach them academically, you get to teach their whole self how to, how to live in every aspect of, of life. And I think that's lacking in schools, but anyways, that's a whole other story. My kids are in school now. Um, but I just love this idea of the whole hearted child. And so when I was trying to describe what Bold School is, what the podcast, what my, my dream for the podcast to be is, or our dream for the podcast. I'm trying to describe this to my family. And I'm like, it's the whole hearted artist.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
My husband's like, that's the worst thing ever. Don't ever say that. Don't ever put that out there.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Oh, Ryan,
Speaker 2 (39:36):
It's so cheesy, and it's so terrible. But that's what it is about. The whole aspect of the artist is what makes our art amazing. It's not just learning the right brush or the right brush stroke though. I think skill and practice and study is so important. That's why Bold School is there. 'Cause I do believe there's a lot of artists out there who don't have skill. And for some reason it's okay for artists not to have skill, but it's not okay for musicians not to have skill. Nobody wants a musician on stage that has never learned how to sing or play an instrument. So, I boldly believe in skill and practice and study, but anyone can learn how to paint a beautiful face. It's one of my lines. Um, it's all about integrating the whole artist into the story, and all our fears are not usually in you think it's about, can I paint an eye, but it's not really, can I paint an eye it's, can I present that eye to the world? What does that eye mean? And what are other people gonna think about that eye? And how am I going to talk about that eye? And should I just burn it all down now? You know, like, so, um, anyways, you'd said something about the whole artist, and I remembered that statement. It's still so true. It's about the whole hearted artists, no matter how cheesy and lame that sounds it's, that's what it's kind of about.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
That might have to be the title of Season Two.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
The whole hearted artist.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
You just let your husband know .
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah. If you guys all like it and comment and tell us you like it.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah. Just hit that thumbs up and we'll make sure that...
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Or, the thumbs down. Totally open to the thumbs down.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
We'll have the whole hearted artist. Anyway, well, thank you all for joining us and listening to the heart behind how the Bold Artist Podcast is getting started, what our hopes and dreams for this launch and hearing a little bit more about who Charla is and, um, Charla, thank for so kindly introducing me and sharing a little bit more about who I am. And so we are just super excited to bring you the Bold Artist Podcast. So, stay tuned and,YouTube, don't forget to hit subscribe, and the thumbs up. I think thumbs up is better than the thumbs down, hey Charla?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Probably. Probably.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
And once we're launched, you can find us on all the, the podcast apps is what I'm trying to say. So, you can head over to your favorite podcast app and search up the Bold Artist Podcast and hit follow, and you can leave reviews there, as well. So thanks so much, everyone stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I just want to say one more thing. Thank you everybody, as well. And this is the official introduction of Marijanel as part of the Bold School team. So, I just want to officially welcome you into the Bold School community, Bold School world, Marijanel.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
So happy to be here.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
We are, yeah, we are so honored to have you on our team. I feel so honored to have you on our team. And one reason why she's here and hosting this and not me is because she asked for thumbs up, not thumbs down, Charla, get off the podcast. So thank you, Marijanel.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
You're welcome. It's my pleasure to be here.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Thanks for being here, everyone. This is Marijanel to say we so appreciate you listening to this pilot episode of the Bold Artist Podcast. I know today's show was a little longer than our usual shows will be. So, thanks for sticking around with us. This is the start of something amazing. Both here on the show and in your life as an artist. We believe in you, and that's why we're here. Don't forget, you can find links in the show notes, info about myself and Charla and Bold School. And also, since you're listening to the podcast here on an app, I want to remind you that you can also hop on over to YouTube, find Bold School, hit subscribe, and watch the show in video format. Till next time, keep creating.
