Marijanel (00:00):
Happy new happy year. We are so excited to ring in the new year with you, our loyal listeners of the Bold Artist podcast. We are wishing you the very best season and year ahead. And this is the first time there's a first time for everything. This is the first time on the Bold Artist podcast that I've actually worn, like, my comfy clothes.
Charla (00:25):
I know. I was more nervous about the comfy clothes than I have about any other outfit.
Marijanel (00:29):
Isn't that funny? And we wear comfy clothes the majority of the time in our life. We both work from offices where we can wear the comfy clothes to work basically. And here we are, we're in comfy clothes, and we're like, this feels so, like we shouldn't be allowed to wear comfy clothes podcast, but here it is. We wore our sparkly clothes last week for, um, our Christmas episode Tibb's Eve as Charla calls it Tibb's Eve, the, the episode on the 23rd. And we were all sparkled and, and yeah, festive. And it just felt right to be cozy today as we bring in the new year.
Charla (01:08):
Yeah. And you know, this is how we are. It's the Christmas season, which by now, right before, um, New Year's Eve, I'm always in comfy clothes. Like it would, I'm never wearing dressy clothes by now because I've been too busy and dressed up too much. So, pajamas it is, yeah. And I even was thinking one of my, I don't do resolutions. One of my New Year's resolutions might be to wear sweatshirts on the podcast more because,
Marijanel (01:35):
Well, I was wondering that
Charla (01:37):
This is me and this is my most comfortable self and this is how I, if I can do meetings like this, I do them.
Marijanel (01:43):
So, you never know what 2023 will bring a whole new flavor of casual podcast Charla and Marijanel.
Charla (01:49):
Our time is now, Marijanel. It's all we got.
Marijanel (01:52):
Time is now. So, put on the hoody and the sweats, and let's talk.
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Charla - Yeah.
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Marijanel - So, um, so what does the horizon of 2023 look like for you, besides the intention to wear more comfy clothes?
Charla (02:05):
That's as far as I've gotten.
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Marijanel - Yeah.
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Charla - Well, not, not fully. Um, well we've been so busy with, uh, Bold School, getting ready for the new year and all the things we have planned for January, like
Marijanel (02:17):
How much class production happened this fall.
Charla (02:20):
One of the things that we can say is that normally in a month we will produce or release one new class at Bold School or, or a new workshop at Bold School. That's like our, our big content release each month. But in January being the first month of the year, and it's all about learning and setting goals and wanting to really make yourself better. We also wanna become better artists. So we're releasing more than one.
Marijanel (02:46):
More than one. I'll tell you how. And the number, the number one will be revealed. So watch in the newsletters, um, are coming up.
Charla (02:53):
Yeah. So there's a lot coming, and it's gonna be like, you're gonna know pretty soon. So ,if you're not on our list, get on the, the list. If you're in Bold School, you're going to, you're, you'll be notified of everything we're doing. If you're not part of Bold School, get on the list to find out or go join up for the beginning of January, 'cuz there's gonna be so much new stuff to get your year going. I mean, a new year, it's a new time. Um, it's, it's time to like get on it and start making some moves in your life, 'cuz you only have right now.
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Marijanel - Yeah.
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Charla - That's what we're gonna talk about today.
Marijanel (03:23):
So, Yeah. And I've heard you, you have had that theme in our conversation, Charla, where you just keep saying the time is now. Our time is now. And what does that mean to you?
Charla (03:33):
Well, it made me start, start thinking like inwardly a bit about what it does mean to me. And I, I really, I have this obsession over time travel, and I started doing some research about it, and a lot of people have obsessions over time travel. Which I already knew because there's so many TV shows and movies that are made around time tra the idea of time travel. And even if it's not directly about time travel, it's often, you know, like so many sci-fi movies that are in the future and apocalyptic, and it's, it's still the idea of what is coming. We don't know, and we wish we did, and we like to think about it and imagine what we would do in all these different situations. And there's lots of time travel movies take you into the past. Um, and you know, there's like cult classic, like, Back to the Future where I was thinking about it actually as I was thinking about this podcast and what I was gonna wanted to say. And I was like, I don't think I'd even thought about the idea that Back to the Future was set in the future, but he went past our time that we were watching it.
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Marijanel - Right.
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Charla - Like, his mother, his mother I think was like living in the sixties or seventies or something, I can't remember. But he was in the future cuz it was somewhere around now I forget the exact year, but it's already passed.
Marijanel (04:49):
Which by the way, when I watched that when I was a kid, I was scared of the time we were in now. It looked so scary. Like, the things that were ha that he was doing in this time.
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Charla - Yeah.
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Marijanel 0 I was like, I never, I never went the world to get that way. And then now I'm here and I'm like, wow, I'm living out what was what they,
Charla (05:08):
Some of it was actually, actually happened. It's so interesting. Um, and like that was just become such a famous movie, and my kids have watched it ,and they know who Marty McFly is, you know, and, and there's more movies like that. One of a favorite of mine that's on Netflix right now called Outlander, which was made after a book series. I
Marijanel (05:26):
Just, well, you know, I was gonna ask you, I, I didn't know whether or not I could talk about Outlander, but you love time travel, but Outlander is the only show that I have enjoyed time travel.
Charla (05:36):
So, I think the reason you probably like Outlander if time travel shows aren't your favorite is because it had a different flavor than the other ones. A lot of the other ones are like seeking to get questions answered, you know, like seeking to find out. Like, I think about maybe if I could go back in time, I could do something different, or I go back in time because I could, could, I'd like to revisit a nostalgic moment. Movies are often about going back in time so they could change history. Right, Right. Like, change something, um, which really is seeking to find answers to questions. So, if you don't really have that need, maybe it doesn't interest you like that. For me, I think it's more nostalgia is why I like obsess over it. I love futuristic stuff too. And thinking about what's coming in the future, um, which is a lot about what we wanna talk about today. Being present.
Marijanel (06:27):
I know you have this saying that you keep saying our time is now. What does that, how does that tie in together? Like to us knowing our time, like being prepared?
Charla (06:35):
Yeah, so I think about like this obsession with time travel and how I can become so like I can almost obsess over it at times. Like I, when I was in physics, physics and university, I remember, like, obsessing over it when we were learning how time travel could actually be true and work. And sometimes I go into these like internet searches, and I get into these stories where people talk about how they talk about in these corners of the internet, how time travel has happened, and they tell these stories. It's just one of those things that I find so interesting, and I don't even like looking at going into it because I get obsessed with it. So, I think about why the obsession. I think it has a lot to do with the exact same thing we do when we, like, pick up our devices and we obsess over our devices. It takes us out of the present and into something that, that is, is it's something else. It's it's imagined
Marijanel (07:30):
Alternative reality.
Charla (07:32):
Yeah. An alternative reality.
Marijanel (07:33):
Yeah. Way to escape
Charla (07:35):
An escape. That's the exact word an escape. It's a dis it's a, it can be a distraction or an escape, and you can find excuses of why that's okay. And not saying that time travel, the idea of time travel is bad and the obsession is bad or the movies or the shows are not bad and neither is a phone. I love my phone. But I think it's got the same, it's a, it can be negative for the same thing that we can get stuck in the past, and we could talk about all the what ifs. What if I could change history? What if I could help somebody 500 years ago? What if I could go in the future and see what's happening and meet aliens and live in apocalyptic times and whatever. It's kind of exciting and imaginary. As an artist, I love using my imagination and thinking about these things. But I did have a time where I realized these things could just take you off track and it could cause you to be depressed. I really believe that people who are stuck in the past are often more, um, apt to to be depressed, and to, to get into depression 'cause they're stuck in the past. and they can't get out of it. Traumas and all those types of things, people who are anxious are often said to be stuck in the future. All the what ifs of the future, what's coming, and what if this happens, and what if that happens, and you can't move forward because you're, you're struck with fear so you become super anxious.
Marijanel (08:55):
So the place to be is... now. Right?
Charla (08:57):
It's in the present, in the present. In the present. And, and now like how can we live for now? How can we get off of our phones and be present with the people around us and, and look at them in the eye, and like see what they're saying, and who they are, and what they meet in this moment. Like, to be present, present. So I'm not,
Marijanel (09:20):
I'll tell you how I have to do it in my household is I have to text them.
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I'm not trying to make light of anything
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Charla - It's hard.
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Marijanel - I'll just say I, I for a long time had a lot of difficulty with how much time my family, and I'm meaning me, my husband, our kids spend on our devices. And I was harping on everyone. I even embraced like at, for a period of time we lived in the country, and I embraced the poor service that we had out there, the internet service and, and cell phone service because I wanted everyone off their devices. But then found myself standing at the edge of a curb looking for the signals so I could talk to Charla on the phone. And, and then at the time I wanted to start podcasting more, and I couldn't find enough internet. So what, But what I'm trying to say is then I, I came to the point of saying, 'cuz I was always on the family about get off your device, like get off your device. But then I had to come to the point where, well if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. So now I'm just on my device, I'm like, Hey guys, time for Dindin.
Charla (10:25):
Well I love, I love our family texts. We've got our, a family text on our phone, and our last name is Maarschalk, and my son called it Thy Maarschalks. And actually, as we started this rerecording, this podcast, I'm staring at my screen, the messages were coming up from Thy Maarschalks, and they're talking about ice cream right now. So, as we were podcasting. So, I love that it actually, it does, social media connects us, and our phones connect us, texting connects us. I love all of that. I don't, I'm not somebody to say like, throw your phones out the window and go connect with nature. But,
Marijanel (10:58):
But you're right. It takes us away from the now it takes us away from the present and
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Charla - Yeah.
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Marijanel - And it is an issue, and I think it's an issue with the generations to come of just learning how to be in the present, um, and be in the reality of what we're in.
Charla (11:16):
Yeah. And I think sitting on that precipice of moving from one year to the next and it's, yeah, it's just one day to the next days. One second to the next second. But there's something as cheesy as it is when someone says, See, see you next year, because it's about to be New Year's and you know, you're not gonna see them until 2023. I just, uh, there's always something about that that I love because it feels like it's a whole like 365 days when you're gonna see them again. But it's really just tomorrow. And there's something just fun about this idea of, yeah, it's the precipice of from one year to a next, and it's just one second to the next. But it's, it's, um, this, this beautiful transition of time. And there's a reason we, we start thinking about our goals and what we're gonna do, what we did last year, what happened in history, what happened on tv, you know, what celebrities did last year.
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We think about that, and then we think about all the things coming into the future, and it's a really great time to look at the past and look at the future and consider all of the meaning of all of it. But it's also a really great time to think about now.
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Marijanel - Right.
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Charla - 'Cause now is the time, not next New Year's when we look back at this year and what we did. Now is the time. Now. This is the time that we've been made for. And I don't wanna obsess about what it would be like to have lived a thousand years ago when life was simple and say, Oh, it was easy. You know, we could milk our cow and then go home and drink the milk. It was easy.
Marijanel (12:45):
That's not easy by the way. I tried that lifestyle. That's the same lifestyle. I didn't get good service.
Charla (12:50):
Not easy, but sometimes you think about that, it was simple back then. Or you think about the future when, oh, there'll be more things making our life easier. It never will. You were born now. you know, now is the time you were born for.
Marijanel (13:05):
You were born for such a time as this. I was just gonna say that I think I was somebody who thought, well I have today. I have at, you know, we know we have today, but we, we aren't even guaranteed today. We have now. So, then it got me challenged. What am I doing with my now? And I was made for right now. I wasn't born back in, in those Outlander days or you know, like the, the old, olden days.
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Charla - Yeah.
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Marijanel - Well my kids do look at old pictures of me and they're like, Wow, you came from the olden days. Um, but no, I was born for now. It's for such a time as this. And what am I doing with my now?
Charla (13:45):
Yeah. So what are ways that you, like, in these epiphany moments, um, what are ways that you actually remind yourself of that? Like, one of the things that I'll often do if I'm, if I'm caught up in the future thoughts or the past mistakes or maybe obsessed with watching a show like Outlander, and I need to get back to reality. One of the things I do is like, I feel like just, um, like standing up, taking, like, physically standing up, physically taking really deep breaths, Letting your body like exhale where you are and think about what you're gonna do now. Maybe you need to connect with your kids, or your husband, or whatever. That's something I like, I feel like I can physically do, is just stand up, take a breath, walk around and not stop looking at my phone in my screen and be present in this, this moment.
Marijanel (14:36):
Yeah. I think a big part of it is bringing your mind and presence back, awareness back to the moment. And um, interestingly last night even I had a few moments where I was, I could tell myself worrying about something that isn't even really an issue. And I just was in my mind saying, Marijanel, like, that's nothing for right now. It's not for now. Like, don't worry about that. It's
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Charla - Yeah.
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Marijanel - Like, right now you're making a really nice family dinner, and you just need to be here right now, not thinking about this other thing that you could think about when we go back to work after the new year. You know, so... It's just, it's just, I think part of it is training ourselves to stay in the now and being mindful. Like, bringing us back to the now.
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Charla - Yeah.
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Marijanel - And believing that we're meant for right now. And that comes back to the, our whole message at the Bold Artsist podcast is giving artists a voice, giving artists stories. And Charla says time and time and time again through Bold School that your art matters. That your art has a message that you're meant to be doing, like creating, painting. That you're designed for this. And, and that's not for next year. That's... Maybe, maybe it is, but what I mean is it's now, it's now. Like, now is the time.
Charla (16:02):
There's a part to play right now. Yeah.
Marijanel (16:03):
Yeah.
Charla (16:04):
You just got, you kind of gotta know what that part to play right now is, and put the other things on a to-do list for six months from now.
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Marijanel - Yeah.
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Charla - And be reminded of them. Like, I like to think about how I put my worries on a to-do list, 'cuz if I've got something that, like, you just said, this is a, it is a real concern, and I need to deal with it, but not today because it's taking away from my time. So, there's anxieties, right? It's taking away from my time right now. Like, my son's going away hiking, and I'm all worried and scared for his, his safety. There's nothing I can do until I get a phone call that says he's actually unsafe, He's in danger, he is lost or whatever. So, my thought was, how about I just enjoy right now. I think he's safe. I know he's safe, and I'll put that worry on a to-do list, and if I get a call, I'll worry about it at that time. 'Cuz there's nothing I can do right now. It's best to put that concern for Monday or Thursday or whatever.
Marijanel (16:58):
Yeah.
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Charla - Know what is now.
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Marijanel - Give it, give it its own, give your worries their own time slot.
Charla (17:03):
Yes. Exactly.
Marijanel (17:04):
And stay in the now.
Charla (17:06):
Yeah. Cause there is a time to take action on things and you just gotta know when that is. Right. But you've got now.
Marijanel (17:11):
Yeah. So I think, you know, I asked you what was on the horizon, uh, for the new hearing. You said, I haven't got that far, but what I'm hearing from you is that as you enter 2023, you are staying present. Like, your, your intention is, I'm in the now, I'm right here now enjoying it. And I, I feel like that can resonate through all of Bold School through our community, through, through all of the artists that work with us, and learn with us, that let's be here now. Let's know we're made for right now, for such a time as this and, um, and create in the now. And, um, so Charla, you had compiled a little bit of a list that helps you keep on track for, for staying in the now. And so before we close off the podcast, why don't you share with us because it's really practical good stuff.
Charla (17:59):
Yeah. And it's, it's just practical things you've probably heard before, but when you compile them onto a list, it helps you, you know, what is really thinking about. I think we've had this, um, theme throughout our discussions for this whole, I, I still say semester, but from September the start it of our summer.
Marijanel (18:17):
Wellm we do run a school, Charla, lso...
Charla (18:20):
Yeah. I have long past school, but I do run a school and I'm still thinking semesters. Since September, we've kind of had this theme of, and I think this is what it boils down to, is simplifying our thoughts, being grateful in that moment, and recognizing what it is now that we, we need to put at the forefront, and be present for. And usually, that's the things that you're most thankful for. Like, for me it obviously, it would be family, my kids, my spouse, my friends, you. And, and also it's my art, my art practice, and the purpose of my art. You know, why am I making art? What is my message as a teacher, as an artist? Um, and, and that has to do with my business. So, then when you boil down those things, I'm thinking what is the most important thing I need to do now to bring, make, move that forward for my, the message and purpose in my work as well as for my family's sake and my connections? So it, it's really about simplifying. Which I, if I remember correctly, was our first episode of season two in September. And we're really almost on that same theme.
Marijanel (19:31):
Well the first episode of season two was that what's in our bags.
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Charla - Oh yes.
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Marijanel - But not far after. And which was a popular show. And if you haven't seen what's in our bags, you definitely wanna go back and check that out because
Charla (19:40):
It was, it was the Thanksgiving show.
Marijanel (19:42):
Yeah. Thanksgiving, we simplified. and we talked about
Charla (19:46):
Our gratitude.
Marijanel (19:46):
Yeah. And um, and so
Charla (19:49):
It's still, you know, that theme still comes up. It's still important. Live in the now, live in this moment. And how do you do that? You like, you get up and so here's, here's this little list that I use to remind myself. Like, notice your surroundings. Where are you? What day is it? What's happening outside? Who is with you? And
Marijanel (20:07):
I always, I always take that literally, and I look at nature.
Charla (20:10):
Yeah, yeah. Your surroundings. And it would be good if you're in your office and you need a moment to get present, go outside. It really helps. And like, um, when I was traveling in the summer, and I came back and I was really jet lagged. I hadn't been jet lagged in ages, and somebody gave me the advice of go outside and plant your feet in the dirt because you will ground yourself with where you are now.
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Marijanel - Yeah.
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Charla - So I just think that is powerful before it is winter.
Marijanel (20:35):
Unless you don't like feeling of dirt on your feet, which is me. So, I'm not good for that grounding practice 'cause I don't like dirt or sand, but, um
Charla (20:45):
You're like my son. Totally. But it's good for you.
Marijanel (20:47):
It's called being a highly sensitive person.
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Charla - Good for you.
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Marijanel - But here's one, one moment, Charla. What I'm gonna do, because I feel, I feel our audience on the edge of their seat.
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Charla - Okay.
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Marijanel - I feel them on edge of their seat. Um, for the sake of all of our listeners and watchers, I'm going to actually read the list, and then I wanna hear what your thoughts are of why you have this list.
Charla (21:09):
I know you're just trying to speed me up.
Marijanel (21:11):
No, I'm not. I promise. It's just, I'm, I'm sensing the anticipation. The people are like, I wanna know the list. Okay. Go to harness the time you're in by Charla. Maarschalk.
Charla (21:22):
Not extensive.
Marijanel (21:24):
Notice your surroundings. Look at the people in the room. Be grateful for right now, whether you're hungry, tired or not, right now we're grateful. Be mindful. Be intentional. Do you need help deep breathing, like doing something like standing up, walking around. And then lastly, getting away from work and entertainment makes you - what am I seeing here? Makes you think of the time. Yeah. Okay. So now expand for us.
Charla (21:53):
Yeah. So, getting away from work and entertainment by that it's just disconnecting yourself from the tasks for you to get done. 'Cuz that zaps our time. Entertainment, same thing. We all think that you're, you're maybe gonna be present 'cuz you're gonna go out with a bunch of your girlfriends on a Friday night and go to a concert, but you can't connect. You're listening to music. Like, I think about so many people go to, uh, a bar or pub on a Friday night where the music's really loud. It's really difficult to be present and connect. You're, you're entertaining, and you're having fun. I'm not saying that that's a bad thing.
Marijanel (22:26):
Well, those are my places to do both. I actually, you kind of connect on a like sort of fun shallow level.
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Charla - Yeah.
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Marijanel - Like, you're disconnecting too, 'cuz you're like getting out of work mode. You're like, disconnect and connect. But it's not like the let's have a deep conversation kind of place to
Charla (22:41):
Yeah. It's not that type of thing. Like if you really like needing to be in the now and learn how to be present, you really need to disconnect from the entertainment as well because that's when your mind engages and your conversation and you can, you can really connect with the people around you. Entertainment is, I love entertainment. We are in the arts,
Marijanel (23:00):
We're, we're in our own form of entertainment business, and we enter, entertain each other on a daily basis.
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Charla - Yeah.
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Marijanel - Early in the morning they'll be messages going between Charla and I of guess what happened to me this morning?
Charla (23:14):
It's true. Yeah. I mean I love it but it's, it's really, I think you just thinking about these things once a day really. That's why I have this like little list of my top reminders, and then I have the list of like, like why? Because it makes you realize that we only have one life to live. You know, like
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Marijanel - Yeah.
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Charla - If you miss this moment now, especially at Christmas time when you've got family and friends that you can see, you're not gonna get it back. It just doesn't come back. There's no way time moves forward. And we, we've got a purpose, and we've got a purpose. Why? How do we know that? That because we take up space on this earth right now
Marijanel (23:47):
You're here for a reason.
Charla (23:49):
Yeah. You're here for a reason. There is purpose, and it can be as simple as you are alive, and you're a human, and you deserve a connection with somebody else. You deserve breath, you deserve air. You know, you have these basic human rights for a reason. You're important, and you have purpose. And this is why we need to be present. You have work to do, you have things to do. So, you gotta stop wasting your time. You know, make use of the things that are in front of you and start moving forward with the work, you have to do and the purposes that you have. And stop fretting, you know, stop fretting, and complaining, and wasting your time about all these things. Like, oh, I'm too ugly to be on tv. I'm too fat to put on those jeans and, you know like...
Marijanel (24:26):
Charla, you sure know how to deliver the message wearing these comfy clothes. I think you got Charla and comfy clothes all the time.
Charla (24:34):
And in that, in that instance, you know, like you gotta kind of stop ignoring the the things that you gotta get done too. Like, stop ignoring your health because that really wastes your... Doesn't waste, not that it waste your time, but it takes your time, it steals your time.
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Marijanel - Yeah.
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Charla - If you stop ignoring your health, and you start getting sick, then all of a sudden your time gets stolen. You know, like.
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Marijanel - Yeah.
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Charla - Stop ignoring these types of things that can actually steal your time. Deal with them so you can move forward.
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Marijanel - Yeah.
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Charla - And another big thing I find with being in the now is recognizing, understanding, and finding true, real joy. And that's not happiness. I remind myself that joy is not happiness. I don't have to be happy right now. Happy is hard to do. Happy is hard to do on a daily basis 'cuz there's a whole lot of unhappy stuff. And if you're fighting with somebody, or if you've got a stress, or an anxiety, you, you're not gonna be happy. But you can be joyful because I'm joyful because I'm sitting in my comfy clothes hanging out with Marijanel and everybody out there. I find joy, but is not necessarily the happiest moment of my life, you know, I'm happy.
Marijanel (25:38):
It isn't? come on.
Charla (25:40):
This is fun, and I am happy.
Marijanel (25:40):
This is the happiest moment of your life.
Charla (25:42):
I gotta go make dinner after this. And I'm starting to think about that. So
Marijanel (25:46):
Tell Thy Maarschalk they can wait. You're in the happiest moment of your life.
Charla (25:51):
Yeah. But I find joy making dinner for my kids even when I'm thinking about how they're not gonna clean it up without me asking 'em 10,000 times.
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Marijanel - Yeah.
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Charla -And you know, in the end, we're artists, so start making art that matters right now.
Marijanel (26:04):
You know, I just got thinking about if someone's listening or watching, and they hear you saying this difference between joy and happiness and they, that you've never, if you've never explored the difference between joy and happy before, um, maybe we need to do another show that that talks about it.
Charla (26:22):
It's a big topic for sure.
Marijanel (26:23):
It is a big topic, but it does actually relate to art. And I'll tell you how, um, because sometimes we are not happy with our art, but we can find great joy. And sometimes when I'm learning, like let's just say here at Bold School you're taking a c a one of our classes, and maybe you are frustrated, maybe you are experiencing difficulty breaking through some of your learning barriers, learning to paint with values and, and build that color palette how we're teaching you to. Maybe you are not super happy, but yet, on another level you're experiencing a joy that can, you can't find anywhere else because you're meant to be doing what you're doing here in the now. And so the joy is about a long-term and deeper, deeper satisfaction than just what makes you happy in the moment.
Charla (27:20):
Yeah. Yeah. And that, that's on my list of, of being able to be present that to remind myself of how to be present right now. Because if you're just looking for happiness, and you're not happy in the moment, you're gonna wish you're in the future at a, in a happier time. Or wish you were in the past in a happier time.
Marijanel (27:38):
Or wish you were just watching Outlander.
Charla (27:39):
Yeah. You know, and there's no new season right now, so
Marijanel (27:42):
It's over.
Charla (27:45):
So, I'm just very unhappy about that. So, that's why joy is, is on that list and not happiness. 'Cuz I don't wanna always be searching for the thing that makes me happy. Although I do love a good day with happy things. Which, hopefully your Christmas day was very happy.
Marijanel (28:02):
Well, which if you wanna know about our happy things, go back to the gift list episode.
Charla (28:06):
Yes. Our, our favorite things episode.
(28:08):
Marijanel - Yeah. At the beginning of December, there's things that make us happy.
(28:08):
Charla - What's in our bag episode
Marijanel (28:13):
But it goes way beyond happiness. It goes to joy. So, our dear watchers and listeners, thank you so much for just being on this journey with us through 2022. It makes us happy and joyful.
Charla (28:28):
It does both at the same time,
Marijanel (28:30):
At the same time. That you are here in the now with us, that you spend your time with us. That you listen, and you're present, and we get so much feedback and response, that we know you're here in the now, and thank you. And may your 2023 be extraordinary, may it be beyond your wildest dreams that every single second of the new year that you can live in the now and enjoy. Just enjoy.
Charla (28:59):
Yeah. Be present and make really awesome art that people wanna hang on their walls. You know, like, make great art, art that matters.
Marijanel (29:07):
And one of the ways you can do that is with us here at boldschool.com. So, find us, get on our email list, be part of the adventure. And until next time, keep creating. And happy New Year.
Charla (29:22):
Happy Year. And at the risk of sounding cheesy, 'cuz I never ever wanna sound cheesy, I'm gonna say see you next year.
Marijanel (29:26):
See you next year.
